Paint or stain cockpit overhang?

[CaptT]

I have a 2015 C28 and am in the process of trying to improve the looks of the woodgrain finish material on the overhang outside the cabin door. I've sanded it down and tried to apply Sikens stain to it with little to no effect. I also have noticed that the stain or varnish the detailer applied earlier is peeling off in some areas yet looks like it was absorbed in others...?? I'm beginning to think this is a laminate, or something similar, and not able to absorb a stain product. Has anyone had success with applying a paint or stain to this material?
Thank you for any help you can provide.

Terry

 

[Rockjumper]

I have the same problem. My plan is to remove the existing and if I can find 1/4" teak holly plywood replace in kind. This time I'd seal the back with penetrating epoxy. If I can't find the plywood I'll use 1/4" Starboard

 

[Lemonade II]

I have a 2015 C28 and am in the process of trying to improve the looks of the woodgrain finish material on the overhang outside the cabin door. I've sanded it down and tried to apply Sikens stain to it with little to no effect. I also have noticed that the stain or varnish the detailer applied earlier is peeling off in some areas yet looks like it was absorbed in others...?? I'm beginning to think this is a laminate, or something similar, and not able to absorb a stain product. Has anyone had success with applying a paint or stain to this material?
Thank you for any help you can provide.

Terry

 

[Lemonade II]

I have a 2019 C28 and I also had a badly deteriorated overhang. I removed it and sanded it down with 80 and then 120 grit sandpaper. - using an orbital sander and open weave sandpaper. Applied 3 coats of 2 part polyurethane finish. Was a lot of work - sanding took about 10 hours. I'll attach a few photos

 

[Lemonade II]

I have a 2015 C28 and am in the process of trying to improve the looks of the woodgrain finish material on the overhang outside the cabin door. I've sanded it down and tried to apply Sikens stain to it with little to no effect. I also have noticed that the stain or varnish the detailer applied earlier is peeling off in some areas yet looks like it was absorbed in others...?? I'm beginning to think this is a laminate, or something similar, and not able to absorb a stain product. Has anyone had success with applying a paint or stain to this material?
Thank you for any help you can provide.

Terry

 

[Lemonade II]

I have a 2019 C28 and I also had a badly deteriorated overhang. I removed it and sanded it down with 80 and then 120 grit sandpaper. - using an orbital sander and open weave sandpaper. Applied 3 coats of 2 part polyurethane finish. Was a lot of work - sanding took about 10 hours. I'll attach a few photos

 

[CaptT]

A lot of work but it definitely shows! That looks great!! It looks like there's going to be a weekend or two of sanding and polyurethane applications in my future. Beautiful job! Thank you for the information.

Terry

 

[Rocky Lou]

I hired one of the workers at my Boat Yard on the weekend for $50/hr. She sanded and applied 4 coats of Epifanes Varnish which looks awesome and she advised the basic rule was one coat per year. Overhead sanding or removing the teak and holly was not of interest to me. It looks great and is vastly more covered than the original version.

 

[Headlee]

This looks nice, but the underlying issue, at least in our case, is water entering somewhere from above. I recall one post on this issue that the solution was to remove every bolt on the roof, wrap with butyl tape, and then screw it back in. It seemed to solve the problem. I will probably take this approach because I have both replaced the panels and sanded and stained, and still have the same problem. There is a flaw somewhere in the design.

 

[Lemonade II]

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As mentioned by Paul and Susie, when you do this take the time to ensure that all fasteners above the overhang are sealed. Mine were good except for hole for the cable for the solar panel. Make sure to seal both sides of the plywood panel so if some water does drip through it will minimize the the damage

 

[CaptT]

I agree Paul. I took the boards down this morning and water was present under the boards. I will have to get started on wrapping the bolts with butyl tape.
I am also looking at allowing the water to drain out, since it seems to gather at the back starboard and port corners, using vented plugs, which should also help with air circulation.
These are the plugs I am planning on ordering.

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Lemonade II, what type of caulking did you use for the edges ?
Thank you for your help with this project.
Terry

 

[Headlee]

YES! I failed to mention that I put in a vent on each panel and cut a notch on each side so the water would drain out. Didn’t want standing water up there. Even with this approach, the moisture and mildew still did their thing and I need to re-sand and stain.

 

[Lemonade II]

I agree Paul. I took the boards down this morning and water was present under the boards. I will have to get started on wrapping the bolts with butyl tape.
I am also looking at allowing the water to drain out, since it seems to gather at the back starboard and port corners, using vented plugs, which should also help with air circulation.
These are the plugs I am planning on ordering.

Sea-Dog Nylon Vent Plug - 1" (4) (337360-1)Default Title

Our Nylon Vent Plugs are compact and come in a convenient bundle with plugs. Vents assist in maintaining a fresh, mildew-free environment in your boat or anchor lock room, whether inserted into a designated vent hole or used to cover holes where outdated lights have been removed. Constructed of...

www.freeportmarine.com

Lemonade II, what type of caulking did you use for the edges ?
Thank you for your help with this project.
Terry

I used sicaflex 221 white caulking and I only sealed along the forward edge. I think more aire flow is better than a complete seal

 

[CaptT]

Thank you for all of your help with this, another boat project, (eventually they'll end, right)??
Without the help from those who have been there before, and those who are planning on going there, it would be a much more difficult project. I always learn from everyone on this site. The brainstorming, alone, is worth it's weight in "boat dollars"! Much more valuable than gold.

Terry

 

[Mastercraft]

For wood ceiling on cockpit overhang on 2017, R29, I just used teak oil and applied with blue scotch brite and a paper towel. Several coats and it looks new. It cleaned the black mold spots off. It did not help the center wood strip much. Blue scotch brite is plastic and doesn't scratch like green scotch brite. I use blue scotch brite on gel coat and teflon fry pans too.

 

[Chimo]

I have a 2019 C28 and I also had a badly deteriorated overhang. I removed it and sanded it down with 80 and then 120 grit sandpaper. - using an orbital sander and open weave sandpaper. Applied 3 coats of 2 part polyurethane finish. Was a lot of work - sanding took about 10 hours. I'll attach a few photos

How did you remove and reinstall? Isn’t it glued?

 

[Lemonade II]

How did you remove and reinstall? Isn’t it glued?

No it isn't glued. Screws around the perimeter and some caulking along the forward edge.