Air Con - 2011 R-27

SV Argo

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Hello all,
I'm currently working to install an AC unit in my Dad's R-27 (2011 Inboard Diesel). This issue I'm having is that its not apparent where the factory would have run the ducting. Since I don't have a similar R-27 nearby to look at, I'm hoping someone here can provide some guidance and input.


Thanks in advance


Chad
 
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There is an AC duct next to the helm seat outboard. It come up through the space behind the electrical panel. Another duct is located outboard on the Port side, mostly under the mate's seat. Neither are well positioned for air flow. I "T" ed of the Port side and put a omni directional louver that exits below the microwave, giving the helm some well needed AC. The big issue with the starboard side is that the ducting must squeezed between the hull and the storage bin. You may want to "T" that side and direct some AC into the "V" berth if sleeping at night with AC is important.
 
I just re-did the ducting on our recently acquired 2013 R27. AC unit is located on port side behind the microwave under the foot rest area of the copilot seat. If yours is in the v-berth area then ignore the rest of this.
AC unit is accessed by removing a panel at the foot of the cave berth. Ours has a 5”x10” discharge grate on copilot step blowing onto the driver’s feet. A 4” round duct went forward from that step into the v berth. However, it was level with the mattress top and therefore right behind the pillow of the person sleeping on that side, or blowing right at the top of their head. Very bad design.
I think our AC was replaced after leaving the factory because the plenum was poorly connected to the AC blower and had such poor airflow that our AC unit froze up after 2 hours of operation. I can’t imagine the Ranger factory doing anything so poorly.
I redid the plenum on top of the AC blower motor to allow air to flow less obstructed and moved the 4” v berth vent outboard and up right under the side deck, quite high in the cabin so it now blows over sleepers. That required me to drill 2-4” holes for new duct hose. One is all the way outboard at the front of foot rest platform for copilot and the other thru the bulkhead into the v berth for the new grate there. I’ll build cabinetry around the round grey duct to hide it.
I subdivided the plenum to split airflow between the 2 outlets. There was insufficient room to use T duct splitters like others used in other configurations.
Ours now works great and puts out tons of cold air without freezing up which is mandatory in out hot Texas climate.
Hopefully this helps with your design.


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Interesting point made by TT about the location of the air handler. On my R27 2011, my air handler is located under the forward area of the "V" berth with the intake air coming from a grill work located under the "V" berth beneath the removable center "V" berth cushions. The compressor is under the step on the Port side. Access to the compressor is gained by removing the upholstered panel on the Port side of the "V" berth. The water pump is located in the engine room with a hose leading forward to the compressor, then dumps overboard directly opposite the compressor.
 
Yes, Alice J, The older 2011 had a split system with the coil in the v-berth as return air and the compressor under the port seat. Then they switched to a single unit,
 
Yes. On our 2013 R27 we have a 16,000BTU Dometic stand alone unit, not a split unit. It is a tight fit as the blower output is only 8” under the copilot foot rest area. Consequently, the plenum I built is a 4 sided box built with 1/2” starboard. One open side is the 5”x10” discharge grate and the 6th side of it is the bottom of the foot rest step itself which is a 1” thick floor with a honeycomb core. It is now a very cool place for the copilots bare feet. 🙂


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All,
Thank you for the input! This R-27 did not come with AC from the factory. So its a new install. I'll poke around the areas described in the feedback. Genuinely appreciate the feedback.


Cheers,
Chad
SV Argo (V-42 #154)
 
Here are pictures of the AC components in my R27:

Cooling water thru-hull / seacock next to generator seacock on port side of transmission (note the inline filters downstream):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Dp7FtMLEHCgTazV9

Seacock location (left arrow) and Dometic water pump (right arrow) downstream from the seacock and filter (top view looking to port):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2H3CP4VdRmbvfn2c9

Condenser behind port bulkhead panel in v-berth (note cooling water thru-hull exit):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6gseaxQFB7NCxsPt7

Close up of condenser thru-hull (with port duct behind it):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/62YHrEQdEH9D4jf39

Return grill for evaporator (with 180 deg turns in duct work noted by CaspersCruiser):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mDWHhJA4RSeMVK3F9

Starboard duct outlet:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jk6F8FN4TLZH9QF79

Port duct outlet:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QnTHJsGHA4aqFT4F8

Hope this helps, GF
 
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