Kicker for C28

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I am considering buying a 9.9 hp kicker motor for my 2021 C28.

1. Is the swim platform strong enough to support the load of swim platform outboard motor bracket and a 9.9 hp motor?

2. If I am operating at kicker motor speeds with a small outboard motor is there any issues with the propeller for the D4 diesel trailing through the water while the engine is not running?

3. Can I steer with my existing rudder when my Diesel engine is not running?

Thanks
 
Greetings,

I have a 9.9 kicker mounted on the swim step of my C28.

The swim step easily supports the motor and mounting (I've seen 6 adults standing on a C28 swim step at the boat show).

I have over 70 hours trolling with the kicker and have had no problems with water being drawn into the diesel motor.

Have never tried steering with the boat's rudder as I do not have a cockpit steering system. I have a Panther remote out board steering system. The Panther unit is easy to install; however, operation is somewhat clunky and requires frequent steering inputs through the remote. It works.

One additional note: I have a dinghy mounted on my swim step. The outboard and the dinghy cannot be installed at the same time. So, if you have or plan to have a dinghy, it means removing the outboard when the inflatable is installed - heavy, clumsy, but doable.
 
I have an R27 and have mounted an outboard motor bracket directly on the port side, primarily as a get-home motor. I replaced the 9.9 with a 15hp and it move the boat at hull speed, the 9.9 did about 3 to 4 kts. I did have an extension handle on the motor to steer. the rudder on the boat is not large enough to effectively steer. I also use the 15 on my RIB and with two or more persons it will plane.
 
Cessna172":e7qyw4c6 said:
Greetings,

I have a 9.9 kicker mounted on the swim step of my C28.

The swim step easily supports the motor and mounting (I've seen 6 adults standing on a C28 swim step at the boat show).

I have over 70 hours trolling with the kicker and have had no problems with water being drawn into the diesel motor.

Have never tried steering with the boat's rudder as I do not have a cockpit steering system. I have a Panther remote out board steering system. The Panther unit is easy to install; however, operation is somewhat clunky and requires frequent steering inputs through the remote. It works.

One additional note: I have a dinghy mounted on my swim step. The outboard and the dinghy cannot be installed at the same time. So, if you have or plan to have a dinghy, it means removing the outboard when the inflatable is installed - heavy, clumsy, but doable.
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I am considering the same configuration for my R29. What motor mount did you use on the swim step that does not interfere with the dingy? Or do you remove the mount also when you carry the dingy? Thanks.
 
Thanks so much to you all for your advice. I am also interested in get home capability and thought I might be able to get 5-6 kts out a 9.9 hp motor, your experience is very helpful.

I like almost everything about my C28, except the dingy mount. It is a big parachute when I am planing, it obscures my view aft and when planing I find the there is always spray for the wake that splashes in the cockpit. I am going to try one of the totally inflatable dingys from Takacat so that the dingy won’t interfere with the kicker mount.
 
Our R29 has a Yamaha 25hp outboard installed on the swim step by the dealership for the previous owner. The swim step was cut out and braced for mounting it. We have pushed our boat up to 5 knots with the outboard, so not sure what speed you would get from a 9.9hp.
The outboard has a hydraulic cylinder plumbed in series with the rudder cylinder, so they move together with the main steering, even with auto-pilot. There is a bypass switch so the outboard needn't move when it's up and we're running on the diesel. There is a power assist in the hydraulic steering so that may have been added to help with the extra load.
We have the cockpit secondary helm, so a second throttle control was added there for the outboard, along with the diesel throttle and steering. The salon TV screen can be turned backwards and mirror the MFD for viewing while underway using the cockpit station.
All in all a pretty slick setup for trolling and picking up crab or shrimp pots. The inboard gas tank and filter makes for a nice redundant get-home setup. The only common fail point is the hydraulic steering. I'm working on devising a manual tiller setup for emergencies.
I'm not sure I would have spent the big bucks to install this myself, but the previous owner was an avid fisherman, and we got the windfall.
Edit: Oh ya, the downside is we can't stow the dinghy on the swim step. We bought a Takacat and stow up on the roof. It takes both of us to lift it on or off, sliding straight over the stern.
Sorry I can't post pics. Our album only has pics of our last boat, the R25 "Yukon Ranger"
 
How do you like your Takacat, and which model did you buy?
 
Calypso":1zh9efyh said:
How do you like your Takacat, and which model did you buy?
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We got the Takacat T260LX because we needed something small and lightweight enough for the 2 of us to get it on the roof. We have the ePropulsion Spirit 1.0 electric motor for it. It makes a nice package for getting to shore or a bit of light cruising around while at anchor. The Takacat is very stable for 2 or 3 (maybe 4) adults. It is possible though to get some water over the floor in waves if you have weight forward, so be prepared to get wet feet sometimes. Light enough that 2 of us can carry it up the beach, and more importantly, carry it back to the water when the tide goes down.
It does break down into 2 bags fairly easily for storage if putting on the roof isn't an option. Each bag is then only about 30-35 pounds for easy handling and stowage.
 
Thanks,

The open transom made me wonder about shipping some water sometimes, but we are looking for a lighter easier boat to manage and the Takacat seems to fit the bill. I am also looking at the electric outboards from Torqeedo and ePropulsion, I am following your lead, lol.

Cheers
 
I have a C 28 with a 25 hpYamaha kicker that is ideal for the fishing,crab,prawn hauling that we do. I find using the inboard diesel lower speeds the maneuverability is a challenge so picking up a crab/prawn buoy is much easier using the OB and in a bit of wind or tide once the buoy is hauled going in reverse is the best option. As the OB is plumed into the main hydraulic steering the AP is great when fishing so with a fish on not having to worry about steering is great.An added plus is a backup motor at 5 kn in case the main conkes.
 
when trolling with a kicker should the transmission be in gear to stop the gear from turning
 
Looked at Taka Cat for our R27ob but went with True Kit Navigator for easier mounting of pot hauler. 3 meters long, a more enclosed bow than the Taka and only 66lbs. Rolls up and sits on top of our barbeque.
 
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