Replacing kenyon electric grill -propane

[Jcat2010]

Does anyone know if there is a propane grille that fits in the space where the Kenyon electric is on most ranger/cutwaters? I use a magma kettle, but its a pain to store it. It would be nice to have one that could sit where the kenyon is and flip upside down to store in the fish well.

 

[Bsmith]

Does anyone know if there is a propane grille that fits in the space where the Kenyon electric is on most ranger/cutwaters? I use a magma kettle, but its a pain to store it. It would be nice to have one that could sit where the kenyon is and flip upside down to store in the fish well.

I removed the electric grill and made a cover for the live well from Starboard. This small gas grill, which sits on top of the Starboard when in use, is just right for the two of us and stores in a bag in the live well. https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CGG-180T-Gourmet-Portable-Tabletop/dp/B004H4WWA6. I use 1 pound propane bottles but it wouldn’t be hard to draw from an onboard propane tank. Although I haven’t tried it yet the Starboard cover would probably make a handy fish cleaning table top.

 

[Submariner]

Propane is heavier than air and if leaked, would settle and accumulate in the space below.

Thr propane locker has a vent on the bottom.
The oven/stove has a propane leak detector that can automatically shut of propane should a leak occur.

 

[Bsmith]

Propane is heavier than air and if leaked, would settle and accumulate in the space below.

Thr propane locker has a vent on the bottom.
The oven/stove has a propane leak detector that can automatically shut of propane should a leak occur.

The 1 pound disposable propane cylinder(s) is stored n the propane locker separately from the grill which is stored in the live well. Time will tell if that is going to be the grill’s permanent home. It’s about as well ventilated as it gets when in use since the grill sits where the electric grill used to be. Just out of curiosity, would the drain at the bottom of the live well, which presumably drains overboard, allow propane to take the same path and vent overboard?

 

[Submariner]

The 1 pound disposable propane cylinder(s) is stored n the propane locker separately from the grill which is stored in the live well. Time will tell if that is going to be the grill’s permanent home. It’s about as well ventilated as it gets when in use since the grill sits where the electric grill used to be. Just out of curiosity, would the drain at the bottom of the live well, which presumably drains overboard, allow propane to take the same path and vent overboard?

Propane is heavier than air, so theoretically yes, It could follow the same path overboard. But that's not a designated propane locker, and that's the problem.

ABYC standards have specific requirements for propane storage, dedicated locker, overboard drain, and other requirements. A bait-well with a drain isn't designed or certified to those standards. The fact that it might vent overboard isn't the same as a system engineered to guarantee it does.

The 1-lb disposable cylinders are lower risk than a permanent tank, but I wouldn't get comfortable with an improvised storage solution just because it seems like it might work.

 

[Jesperjo]

Apart entirely from the issue of where it is safe to store propane, I’m curious why folks dislike the electric grill. Yes, it does draw a lot of power so if you’re anchored out it could be a problem, but if you’re on shore power I found it great. I used it for almost everything on our R-25. I actually rarely cooked with the inside cooktop. Instead I got a griddle top for the electric grill and cooked bacon and eggs and made everyone in the marina jealous.

I’m just curious why people dislike it.

 

[JMarshallR25]

Apart entirely from the issue of where it is safe to store propane, I’m curious why folks dislike the electric grill. Yes, it does draw a lot of power so if you’re anchored out it could be a problem, but if you’re on shore power I found it great. I used it for almost everything on our R-25. I actually rarely cooked with the inside cooktop. Instead I got a griddle top for the electric grill and cooked bacon and eggs and made everyone in the marina jealous.

I’m just curious why people dislike it.

Seconding the griddle top. I use it even at anchor. Smash burgers ftw.

 

[Jcat2010]

I prefer propane because it's FAST. At anchor I can whip up a meal in minutes and be eating before the electric grill even warms up. Just my preference. Cooking on the back deck is preferable to heating up the cabin in the summer. BTW, Propane stays in the locker, where it belongs. Storing it in the fish well adds several levels of risk. The propane locker is vented above the waterline. The well/sink has branches and other issues. Plus, the well is not sealed and you could possibly leak propane into the bilge.

 

[serendipity]

We made a starboard lid for the space occupied by the Kenyon grill. This cover flips over to provide a spot for a Magma grill: there are fiddles that keep the Magma from sliding.

We store a third 10# propane bottle in the propane locker. From our sailing days we are fans of the separate 16 oz bottles.

We store both the Magma and Kenyon in the center cockpit locker of our 2023 R27. Some marinade we have visited do not allow propane grills. We use the “fish well” to store trash bags while cruising, as we don’t fish.

 

[serendipity]

Yes, while some marinades may not like propane as well, I meant to say marinas! I guess spell check is a lanflubber!

 

[Jcat2010]

Yes, I too have heard of these backwards marinas that dont like "open flame", but haven't had issues yet. That's why I wanted a propane grill to fit where the Kenyon goes- so if i run into the flame issue I can just drag out the Kenyon and be OK. Never thought about marinade not liking propane, I'll have to research that over a cocktail.

 

[serendipity]

Here’s a pic of our grill in action. The starboard platform flips over to cover the well. While cruising we use the well to contain our trash bags.

 

[Jcat2010]

Serendipity- what model magma ? Exactly what I am looking to do. The kettle works ok, but it's a tough fit into the fishwell. I also have a 6' hose from the propane locker to the kettle. It could back up in the locker when not in use.

 

[serendipity]

It’s the Catalina infrared model. Ours is about 12 years old, but I believe the Catalina 2 model replaced it. Most Catalina style models have fold out legs.

 

[Jcat2010]

Thanx!!