T-27 listing to port

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charlie&juliesboat

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Fluid Motion Model
C-302 SC
Hull Identification Number
FMLT3129C818
Vessel Name
Charlie's Jewel III
Hello Tugnuts:
Julie & I have so enjoyed our 70 hours of cruising on our new R-27...Puget Sound is incredibly beautiful.
We do have an issue with the boat. Since we have kids and grand kids all over the lower 48 in cold and hot climates, we had out boat equipped with a generator and ac/heat unit. The problem is the boat lists to port. At night, we have stacked storage bins and anything heavy on the starboard side to try and counter act the listing. Do any of you have suggestions on ways to balance the boat.

Thank you in advance
Charlie
 
We lined the floor of the starboard locker with flat, rectangular paving stones. We also keep two full five gallon jugs of water on top of the starboard locker cover. Full, each weighs 40 pounds. When we are away from home, we use the water in the jugs to top off the fresh water tank and re-fill the jugs.
 
We also have the genset, causing a slight list to port. To counteract this we have our spare anchor in the starboard side locker under the bed. We also place my heavy tool bag and all spare parts in the starboard cockpit locker as well as have our dinghy mounted on the swim platform so the stern of the dinghy and therefore the outboard engine are to the starboard side of the boat. I like Barry's paver stone idea.

Jim
 
How about moving a battery or two across the boat?
 
We also have the genset and the a/c on the port side, and keep spare anchor, chain, rode in stbd storage locker, keep storage under stove filled with extra water/gatorade/sodas, keep stbd storage in vberth with gallon jugs of water, and mounted a rooftop cargo carrier on stbd roof rack:


We keep the magma grill, 400 ft stern tie line on a reel, snorkeling gear and full cockpit canvas up there.

Good luck!
 
Pretty soon everyone will know who has a generator; they are the ones with one leg ending up being shorter than the other. Like the ridge runners. We keep a bunch of extra water on the starboard side up under the berth. Dink motor on the starboard inside the cockpit. Inflatable dingy on roof favoring starboard side. Tools in starboard side tool locker. No heavy stuff in the cave. My wife sleeps on portside. Full propane bottle on portside. Bricks in the oven for brick oven pizza 😱
D.D.
 
What's the generator weigh? How much beer is that?
 
Capt Crunch,
I tried that.....problem is we drink it and end up right back where we started. Same deal for me....generator, AC, batteries ( AGMs in my case). I stash everything I can on the starboard side.....I even sleep on the starboard side, but roll to port during the night. The nice thing is my girlfriend is on the port side!

Phil
 
Amen!
 
Thanks to all of you for your inputs. We hope to get balanced based on your inputs!

Charlie
 
Start with moving batteries to the other side - at least they don't move or get lighter as you cruise.
 
FYI. I don't know how this relates to an R27 but we just put our R25SC in the water last week after moving the 2 house batteries to the starboard cockpit storage locker and the boat is level. No more generator list and we can sit at our galley table with only minimal boat list. Big improvement with no additional weight to carry around. The cockpit storage is now on both the port and starboard sides. This does limit long items from being stored in the cockpit storage.
 
After 6 years with only 20 hours on the Mase clock, I've decided to remove the generator and store it until I sell the boat. I can always take my Honda 2000 along if needed. Can't stand that annoying list to port any longer.
 
PhilR":2j4p3348 said:
After 6 years with only 20 hours on the Mase clock, I've decided to remove the generator and store it until I sell the boat. I can always take my Honda 2000 along if needed. Can't stand that annoying list to port any longer.
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Ditto on everything!
 
charlie&juliesboat":1mw5x7yn said:
Hello Tugnuts:
Julie & I have so enjoyed our 70 hours of cruising on our new R-27...Puget Sound is incredibly beautiful.
We do have an issue with the boat. Since we have kids and grand kids all over the lower 48 in cold and hot climates, we had out boat equipped with a generator and ac/heat unit. The problem is the boat lists to port. At night, we have stacked storage bins and anything heavy on the starboard side to try and counter act the listing. Do any of you have suggestions on ways to balance the boat.

Thank you in advance
Charlie
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The heavier person should sleep on the starboard side in the V-berth. If there's a 40 to 50 lbs difference wouldn't his offset the Gen's and A/C's weight ?

Is it just a 'night-time' issue ?
 
Well, in Maryland some of us cannot live without AC and the gen is required. It must be nice to live in a less humid environment.
 
dclagett":2yzhllel said:
Well, in Maryland some of us cannot live without AC and the gen is required. It must be nice to live in a less humid environment.
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That's for sure.... :lol: T'is one of the reasons we left Connecticut for the PNW. Note however, that the PNW is quite humid but not like the suffocating humidity along the USA east coast. PNW also has few to no bugs compared to southern states where we experienced mosquitos the size of dive bombers. 😉
 
Add my vote to moving batteries. Our C28 had a horrible list. We moved two batteries across the cockpit at minimal expense, end of problem. Trying to compensate in other ways was just not adequate. The batteries are heavy and compact enough to do the job without adding yet more weight to the boat.
 
Our R25 listed to PORT and it eventually became annoying.

It took 2 hours to move the two house batteries from the port locker to the corresponding starboard locker.

The list is completely gone - the boat sits flat and our legs are beginning to re-grow to become equal length.

An interesting side effect.

When at plane speed, the port list used to go away and the boat ran flat.

When I first shifted the batteries, the boat sat flat but listed to starboard at plane.

I believe the Ranger engineers designed the weight distribution such that the torque of the prop at high speed was balanced by the extra weight on the port side of the boat.

No problem, now I run with the starboard trim tab full down and the port trim tab at 4 bulbs less than full down.

the boat seems to run very slightly faster (but it may be tide or wind) and is level at both plane and idle.

I used 2 gauge wire (just under 5') for the extension and fused it with a 200 A fuse. /Stu
 
Not sure if the list correction under speed was intentional. Look at your rudder, it is slightly offset or tilted to allow the removal of the prop shaft without removing the rudder. This offset could contribute to the correction of the list.

The boats are all the same hull config with or without the ac/genset. Suggesting a list correction in such a fashion would be quite expensive from a manufacturing point of view and highly unlikely
 
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